Note: This is identical to the post on Facebook. If you missed that, you are not my facebook friend. Stop crying, it'll be OK.
My take on the debate last night:
Jim Lehrer-
Lots of people are taking shots at Jim Lehrer. Some is warranted, others are not. Yes the job of a moderator is to use control,
and in that aspect, Lehrer didn’t achieve his goal. It would have been one of the few times where
a giant gong would have been nice. A
moderator that is doing that job, with the public as the judge (and not a three
judge panel, where points could be deducted) has no real mechanism to stop
someone from talking over everyone else.
What was he going to do? Stand
up, and hit someone? No. Especially since this was an open discussion
forum, and especially since there is only so much he can do to physically stop
someone from talking, I can’t be too hard on him. I would have stood up, and pulled out an air-horn,
but I’m not a well respected journalist that has moderated more presidential debates
than anyone living today.
It was also sad that the entire last section of the night
was scrapped. That was a failure of the
debate. You don’t win kudos with me, for
talking talking talking… You win kudos
and have a chance to change my mind when you pose an argument and/or answer the
question that was asked of you. If you
can do that in a too the point way, and don’t have to ramble on forever to kind
of come up with an answer that skirts or skims the question asked….then that’s
what I want. Not having the ability to
answer clearly and in under 2-3 minutes means you can’t really control your explanation.
(NOTE: That last rule doesn’t apply if you are asked ANYTHING about quantum
mechanics.)
Mitt Romney:
Romney has been said by many to have won the debate. I agree in the sense that more people that
have not made up their minds already would be more persuaded by his arguments
than Obama’s. Mitt was much more on the
ball with numbers, and took a more aggressive approach in the debate. I figured he would. Any candidate that is fighting for numbers
will be more bold, because if they aren’t, then they have no chance to pull in
voters. The underdog always has to act
stronger.*
*For those that will cite the constant statistical tie as
evidence that he isn’t an underdog, then you don’t understand statistical ties or
the electoral college. I didn’t take first
place in Fantasy Election ’08 by accident.
Learn how stuff works.
I was not happy that Romney got away with a lot of the same
lines that fact checkers have called him on (i.e. those 6 studies that support
his tax plans being revenue neutral didn’t do that at all, as outlined study by
study here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/27/wonkblogs-comprehensive-guide-to-the-debate-over-romneys-tax-plan/?print=1
), and with his comments that have been in the news (i.e. 47%, emergency room
care as healthcare). I was not happy in
the least that we’ve gotten to this point, and still he offers no real details
on his plans (“I’ll close loopholes” isn’t a plan. Which?
For whom? How much will that save?
Who will it effect? The 6 studies
were trying to debunk this one : http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/1001628-Base-Broadening-Tax-Reform.pdf
) With all that being said, if you consider
the goal of the debate as convincing the undecided voters, Romney won hands
down. It’ll take about 2 days, and more
accurate numbers on Monday/Tuesday to see what the margins look like in the
swings.**
** When I say swings, I’m referring to NV, CO, FL, IA, WI,
OH, PA, NH, VA & N.C. If you don’t
know about the GOP’s new issues with the swings NV, CO, FL, N.C., and VA, hit
this link. For the GOP, it may blunt any
gains in those areas, not on a voter by voter basis, but in new registers. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#49250158
Barack Obama:
I can’t say much about him, because he didn’t really show
up. Lol What the hell? Looking into the camera to talk to the people
at home can be a good plan. Engaging
Romney would be a good plan. He seemed
to spend time looking down and engaging his podium. There was no “bite”, which is a term I use
when talking about debtors taking a piece out of their opponent. The opportunities
were there, certainly, but he seemed to not be engaged. Even if you think (as I do) that his points
were more factually true, that did no good because he stumbled all too often
while offering those. Speaking of those
points, it still irks me that he uses the money saved coming out of 2 wars in
his numbers, and that he hasn’t taken Simpson-Boyles more to heart. I think re-election plays a big part of that,
and I hope to see him doing more damage to the Debt in a 2nd
term.
Back to the debate.
In those 90 minutes, I think he lost his footing, and it seemed to be
because he had a lapse of confidence. We
see that in debates, even this year (Perry’s 3 departments..wait..2.. What’s the
third?), but the time to NOT have that happen is the opening debate (of 3
total) which was focused on Domestic issues.
The economy is always the most important issue, and so of the three that
he could have had a “crisis in confidence” in, this was the worst. (To see a
crisis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HgE5q2Umkw To see a crisis with a punch line: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HgE5q2Umkw
)
I have lots of people that I’m friends with here, that are
waiting to see if I’ll just cover up his mistakes, and see if I’ll admit that I
think Romney had a win. I’m not covering
anything, because that’s not how I do business.
Romney won last night, and Obama was flustered and seemed like he was
stepping on stage for the first time. Whereas
Romney loses points for a lack of facts, Obama lost more for his debate skills,
which as I said at the beginning matters more to those undecided voters (but
not to independents). Romney :1 / Obama
:0.
Next Debates:
For those that will follow more, the next debate is with
Rep. Ryan and V.P. Biden on October 11th. (Moderated by Martha Raddatz, 9 segments, 10
minutes each)
Then on Oct. 16th, it’s to a presidential town hall
debate in N.Y., on Domestic and Foreign Policy. (Moderated by Candy Crowley,
town hall style, with audience members asking questions)
The final debate is in Florida in the 22nd, just
on Foreign Policy. (Bob Schieffer moderates, same debate format as the first, 6
segments, 15 minutes each.)
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ReplyDeleteThat said I didn't watch much of the debate, but still appreciate your assessment of them. I think the fact that Romney came off better in them is the reason I don't particularly like debates: it's not about who has better ideas or arguments, it's all about who's more eloquent (on a given day about a given topic), and that bugs me.